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In a message dated 98-01-14 18:19:57 EST, balloon-d-request@fooledya.com
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<<
If we make a sword (how hypocritical can we be?) we are sure to hand it
to the child like this: lay the sword over your other arm, hilt first,
and say in a deep "kingly" voice, "Go ye forth, and defend the
kingdom!!" Gives it a bit of dash and takes out a little of the
violence.
Half the time, during the ensuing inevitable "swordfight" between
knights, the swords bend 90 degrees at the hilt. Makes for lots of
giggles.
>>
Hi, when I make a sword I turn it upside down and make it balance on my finger
( like a peacock feather) all you have to do is watch the top of the handle
and balance by moving your hand in the same direction as the top is going.
Many times the child likes the ideas and will try the balancing act himself.
Other times when they say "make me a sword", I ask in my dumb clown way ," a
dinosaur?" ,and sometimes they like that idea better and say, "Yes!"
I also make laser guns and tell them to be careful 'cause they'll get light
all over people that they laser. Make it fun, Carol Fields
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balloon-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 13
Today's Topics:
LOBSTER [ "Tim Rimmer (aka Buttons The Magic
]
Re: Good Business card [ kissle@ix.netcom.com ]
160Q'S NOW AVAILABLE [ MOEKOTT <MOEKOTT@aol.com> ]
Lobster [ "donna jaffke" <sugar@scescape.net>
]
Re: balloon-d Digest V98 #12 [ JKennyU <JKennyU@aol.com> ]
Restaurant Gigs [ Dave Lewis <magichand@earthlink.net
]
Re: balloon-d Digest V98 #12 [ Ricndebb <Ricndebb@aol.com> ]
Re: Restaurant Gigs [ NOSTALGIA1 <NOSTALGIA1@aol.com> ]
Problem Stories [ NOSTALGIA1 <NOSTALGIA1@aol.com> ]
bad restaurant stories [ "donna jaffke" <sugar@scescape.net>
]
Guns [ roe_topol@juno.com (Rosemary P Topo
]
Re: Guns [ Good2news <Good2news@aol.com> ]
Re: Problem Stories [ rdailey <rdailey@jaguarsystems.com>
]
SKIER [ LUSSO.GARY_M@MILWAUKEE.VA.GOV ]
Re: Guns [ "Steven H. Brown" <smokin!steve@fas
]
Thanks [ "Tim Rimmer (aka Buttons The Magic
]
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:27:47 -0500
From: "Tim Rimmer (aka Buttons The Magic Clown)" <imaclown@cswnet.com>
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I haven't been on the list very long, but so far I really enjoy =
recieving it.
I was wondering if someone could give some really detailed instructions =
on how to make Marvin Hardys Lobster. I'm not much on being able to make =
a balloon just by looking at a picture.
Thanks a Cabillion
Tim "BUTTONS" Rimmer
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:35:43 -0800
From: kissle@ix.netcom.com
To: Balloon@fooledya.com
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Dear list,
I'd love to say that I'd hate to drag this on and on, but...
I'd like to make some corrections to Garth's post.
G van Vliet Quoted who?:
> Garth,
> Although I wouldn't have posted it(thought about it though) You took
> the words right out of my mouth! What can we expect from a guy whose
> spelling is so consistently bad. You might get some "flames" from some
> of the more goody-goody folks on the list.
> Kissle
I can not accept responsibility for this quote, although the part about
Justin's spelling is
pretty convincing(not that I could edit for the New York Times)
>Garth wrote:
> Anyway on to the facts: you still don't seem to get the irony of
your
> lamenting the fact that someone else copied your idea, when it
wasn't *your*
> idea in the first place.
Wrong! Wrong! Justin's IDEALS(some of which he makes public at the end
of his posts with little
fishies)are the issue here! Note: if enough people copy your ideals you
may want to start your own
cult.
>Hey I've just thought of a great idea why
> don't you send me a free sample of your pump then I can compare the two and
> post a review to the group.
Justin, It would be cool if you sent your pump to an impartial party for
review on the list(Larry
Moss maybe? and then maybe it could be a prize for one of the contests?
good pr for pump!)
Youd think Garth was responsible for Aparthied by the way some folks
address him by his Nation!
Gee wizzers
Everyone has their own ways and we all need to respect each others
feelings, however,
a few spicy posts keep this list fresh, fun, more informative and
entertaining.
kissle
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:56:33 EST
From: MOEKOTT <MOEKOTT@aol.com>
To: balloon@fooledya.com
Subject: 160Q'S NOW AVAILABLErd138 #13
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Hi Guys,
They just came in today. I've gone through about 1/2 a bag and it was a very
good 1/2 a bag of balloons, even for Qualatex. Good Job Q Guys.
They are hard to inflate. They make great miniatures of regular 260 figures.
They are very long for the diameter so you may have to tie a knot in the tail
and cut off the rest for some figures. For fancy figures, it gives you a
different size line. For Hats, well, anything on a hat is great but the 160's
help keep things interesting.
The 1 gross price for 160Q Assorted or 160Q Jewel Tone One Color is $6.15
12 bag price $5.54
24 bag price $5.23
48 bag price $4.92
The Jewel Tone One Color colors are Green, Ruby, Yellow, Orange, Dark Blue,
Purple and Black.
The 1 gross price for 160Q Standard One Color is $5.40
12 bag price $4.86
24 bag price $4.59
48 bag price $4.32
The Standard One Color colors are White, Light Blue and Pink.
And a question. How would you use 3 foot hearts with twisting balloons. I'm
looking for ideas for the next True Inflations. Maybe a big head or a large
fish or the body for a big helicopter. They sell for $1.85 each so price is
certainly a consideration but you can add a 3' heart to the total # of bags
for volume prices. Maybe the best use is a big helium filled heart. I don't
know. Maybe you guys have some inspiration.
As long as I'm talking about product. I've got the solid color Prestige
260P's in stock too. I'm happy with this batch.
There was not much interest in juggling 260's. I'd hoped to find a juggler
who saw it as a challenge but it may be too hard without enough pay off. It
is something I would like to encourage.
All the best,
T (free catalog, just ask) Myers
6513 Thomas Springs Rd.
Austin, Texas 78736 U.S.A.
Online Catalog - http://www.tmyers.com
Orders 1-800-648-6221
Information 1-512-288-7925
Fax 1-512-288-7694
Business Email - TMyersMagi@aol.com
T Email - MOEKOTT@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:04:11 -0500
From: "donna jaffke" <sugar@scescape.net>
To: <balloon@fooledya.com>
Subject: LobsterNOW AVAILABLErd138 #13
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Donna Jaffke
Sugar T. Clown
sugar@scescape.net
http://www.geocities.com/wellesley/1256
Hey list,
I just sent Tim Rimmer lobster directions, I'll send a copy to David so
that it can be posted.
Also if ya'll ever flame me, I'm gonna cry!
Donna
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:57:33 EST
From: JKennyU <JKennyU@aol.com>
To: balloon@fooledya.com
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In a message dated 98-01-13 18:13:16 EST, you write:
> Though I can a number of different gun and sword designs, I don't give them
> out to children. My opinion is, I'll let the military teach our kids how
to
> kill, it's not my job. I tell the parents and the kids that. The boys
just
> start thinking how cool it's going to be to grow up and join and then ask
> for
> a lion (so it can eat the girls teddybear) or a monkey (so it can rip up
the
> girls flower) :-))
>
> Brit (keeping the world safe so the army can blow it up) Anders
> "Brit the Balloonist"
I have thought about this also. Do I really want to be encouraging kids to be
violent, even in play, by giving them balloon imitation of weapons? I
certainly respect your morals to refuse, but I fear I don't live up to your
standard. I myself if asked will give the kid a sword sculpture. For gun
sculptures I try to keep it a "Laser" gun, or some other improbable futuristic
creation. I like to stay away from representations of real weapons (pistols,
tommy guns, etc) although I can make em, it makes me uneasy.
I really don't want to be in the position of lecturing people at some kid's
birthday about my sense of right and wrong. If the parents express any wish
for me not to make kids weapons, then I won't….Of course. Otherwise I just
stay away from representations of real and current weapons.
Cheers.
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Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:22:31 -0800
From: Dave Lewis <magichand@earthlink.net>
To: balloon@fooledya.com
Subject: Restaurant Gigsigest V98 #123
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Bruce is right about the waitresses and waiters; they will eventualy
realize that you are frequently getting better tips than they are. The
well-adjusted ones will blow this off as no big deal. The others will not.
Do your very best to be obvious in your attempt to make their job as easy
as possible. The guests are there to eat, not to be blessed by your wildly
entertaining schtick! Move aside when the servers approach. Be aware and
ready to hear "Behind you" all day/night long.
Having the wait staff on your side really makes this kind of work a lot
easier. Being on their poop list could make it intolerable.
Keep on Twistin!
-Dave
If you're REALLY bored, check out http://home.earthlink.net/~magichand/
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:29:01 EST
From: Ricndebb <Ricndebb@aol.com>
To: balloon@fooledya.com
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Hi List! Love you guys! Swords and guns. I don't do guns ( personal choice
also). But I do do a sword or two. It's part of my patter to ask the child
while I am making the sword if they know the sword rule. They either fake it
or say no and then I tell them " The sword rule says that whoever you stab
with your sword (pause for effect) gets to keep it! Is'nt that a good rule. It
includes your little brother" I got this from Lindy who has a balloon company
in our area. Goes over great with the parents!
Restaurant work--I'm doing more and more of it and to me the most important
thing (after doing a good job and keeping the kids happy) is to keep good
communications with the management. If they are happy everything is cool and
they will save your butt with the occasional awkward situation of a
disgrunteled customer.
My 2cents worth
Ric of Ricndebb (Deb's the good looking brainy one who handles the biz and
finances so I can play with balloons)
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 07:56:40 EST
From: NOSTALGIA1 <NOSTALGIA1@aol.com>
To: magichand@earthlink.net
Cc: balloon@fooledya.com
Subject: Re: Restaurant Gigst V98 #123
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In a message dated 98-01-14 01:27:00 EST, you write:
<< Be aware and
ready to hear "Behind you" all day/night long. >>
When they would yell BEHIND YOU, I would yell IN FRONT OF YOU!
Bruce (dosey do your waitress) Kalver
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:47:54 EST
From: NOSTALGIA1 <NOSTALGIA1@aol.com>
To: balloon@fooledya.com
Subject: Problem StoriesGigst V98 #123
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In a message dated 98-01-14 01:31:23 EST, you write:
<< Restaurant work--I'm doing more and more of it and to me the most important
thing (after doing a good job and keeping the kids happy) is to keep good
communications with the management. If they are happy everything is cool and
they will save your butt with the occasional awkward situation of a
disgrunteled customer.
>>
How about a thread from everyone of bad stories and how you all handled it.
Some problems are never resolved and unfortunately YOU become the scapegoat.
2 stories come to mind. I'll tell you one now:
I refused to make a balloon for a 1 year old baby who was sucking his fingers.
I wouldn't even make the balloon for the mother because she said" So make it
for me and I'll just hand it to him." I suggested a helium balloon which I
got for her. She smiled and I left. At the end of the night, the manager fired
me because the woman complained about my not making a balloon for her son. I
explained to the manager that I was protecting his restaurant from a potential
law suit by not having a kid choke. He thanked me for doing that and then
fired me.
I would rather be fired for saving a child than causing his death.
Bruce (there a lots of restaurants but not enough children) Kalver
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:14:01 -0500
From: "donna jaffke" <sugar@scescape.net>
To: <balloon@fooledya.com>
Subject: bad restaurant stories98 #123
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Donna Jaffke
Sugar T. Clown
sugar@scescape.net
http://www.geocities.com/wellesley/1256
My problem was that I hate to say no when I am a clown, and the employees
kept after me to
make their children balloons after it was time for me to go. By the time I
finished those, their were more customers and I ended up putting in way
more time than I intended to.
But on the other hand restaurant work is soooooooo good for business,
another thing I found that is good for business is volunteering at the
local library. These kids are a different breed of children who spend a
lot of time at the library. They are well behaved
and the parents usually are very interested in their children. I started
out volunteering and they ended up paying me without me asking.
Donna
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:49:12 -0500
From: roe_topol@juno.com (Rosemary P Topol)
To: balloon@fooledya.com
Subject: Gunsrestaurant stories98 #123
Message-ID: <19980114.135144.10086.0.roe_topol@juno.com>
Another 2-cents worth on the balloon-gun issue.
When asked for a gun balloon, my husband and I just say, "Sorry, I don't
make gun balloons - I only make friendly things." We've never had a
child or a parent object in the least. They just instantly think of
something else.
If we make a sword (how hypocritical can we be?) we are sure to hand it
to the child like this: lay the sword over your other arm, hilt first,
and say in a deep "kingly" voice, "Go ye forth, and defend the
kingdom!!" Gives it a bit of dash and takes out a little of the
violence.
Half the time, during the ensuing inevitable "swordfight" between
knights, the swords bend 90 degrees at the hilt. Makes for lots of
giggles.
Have fun! Roe Topol
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:15:49 EST
From: Good2news <Good2news@aol.com>
To: Balloon@fooledya.com
Subject: Re: Gunsaurant stories98 #123
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In a message dated 98-01-14 14:11:58 EST, you write:
<< <
Another 2-cents worth on the balloon-gun issue.
When asked for a gun balloon, my husband and I just say, "Sorry, I don't
make gun balloons - I only make friendly things." We've never had a
child or a parent object in the least. They just instantly think of
something else.
If we make a sword (how hypocritical can we be?) we are sure to hand it
to the child like this: lay the sword over your other arm, hilt first,
and say in a deep "kingly" voice, "Go ye forth, and defend the
kingdom!!" Gives it a bit of dash and takes out a little of the
violence.
Half the time, during the ensuing inevitable "swordfight" between
knights, the swords bend 90 degrees at the hilt. Makes for lots of
giggles.
Have fun! Roe Topol
>>
Hey Guys give it a rest!!!!!!!
When I was a kid I had a gun on each hand all the time. Point the index
finger and cock your thumb. This wepon would even shoot around a tree if need
be. Plus any time I wanted a bigger one I'd just pick up the first stick I saw
and presto a bigger gun, Racket launcher, or whatever I wanted it to be. You
guys sound like a bunch of old Lady's. If you want to play with your doll's
thats okay just leave my guns alone...
Rest in Peace
"Elmo Twist"
David In Florida
P.S See you in Chicago >>
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:08:25 -0500
From: rdailey <rdailey@jaguarsystems.com>
To: balloon@fooledya.com
Subject: Re: Problem Storiesies98 #123
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I bought a gross or those "chepo plastic ducks" That T. Myers sells. Fake
like you inflate it then the child thinks he's getting some thing cool. (
and they are safe. )
Greg
Dailey
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Date: 14 Jan 98 10:53 CST
From: LUSSO.GARY_M@MILWAUKEE.VA.GOV
To: balloon@fooledya.com
Subject: SKIERroblem Storiesies98 #123
Message-ID: <9333737@MILWAUKEE.VA.GOV>
We went skiing here in Wisconsin at Lapham Peak Park. I experimemted with
a skier. It was a hit and still on a table when I came back two days
later. The DNR person said people were asking about it.
The poles came out the best. Inflate the 260 but leave enough at the end
so a tiny bit is uninflated. Make a twist just above the end real soft,
then two small ear twists. It will look just like a pole. The skiis had to
pinch twists in the middle and I attached the skier's foot to it.
Legs
foot/heel legs heel/foot
====0-----------------0=====
^attach to ski. ^
^small bubble ^
Ski
shape ends pinch twists like bear ears
\----------<>-------------
^attach front of foot
\----------<>-------------
^use one twist to help ski keep it's shape
Pole
|-------------------------<>*- soft tip and two flower type ear twists.
^put through skier's hand ^you can use broken balloon to tie to end of
ski for additional balance.
I carry balloons with me in an old marble bag and practice where ever.
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:23:55 -0500 (EST)
From: "Steven H. Brown" <smokin!steve@fast.net>
To: balloon@fooledya.com (260Q)
Subject: Re: Gunslem Storiesies98 #123
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> Hey Guys give it a rest!!!!!!!
> When I was a kid I had a gun on each hand all the time. Point the index
> finger and cock your thumb. This wepon would even shoot around a tree if
need
> be. Plus any time I wanted a bigger one I'd just pick up the first stick I
saw
> and presto a bigger gun, Racket launcher, or whatever I wanted it to be. You
> guys sound like a bunch of old Lady's. If you want to play with your doll's
> thats okay just leave my guns alone...
>
> Rest in Peace
>
> "Elmo Twist"
> David In Florida
>
> P.S See you in Chicago >>
Hi all,
I was going to stay out of it ( this time... :), but David's very much
on the right track......least to me, it's all about I M A G I N A T I O N,
when we put a balloon pirate hat on a child, are we encouraging them to
go rape and pillage...?
The last line in David's post set me on my heels for a moment, then it
made me think....How many of us make a mermaid for a girl child, and
a motorcycle for a boy..... I used to be guilty of this..."ohhh you're
a boy..well here's your discombobulated space laser" ( or something
to that effect :)..."my what a pretty dress you have on miss...here's
your very own Barbie balloon"......to me this is a greater offense than
balloon weapons.....why can't a female have a sword and helmet....?
why does a male child have to be given MANLY things....? I've been
trying to make a conscious effort to stay away from this trap...and go with
what the kids would like...and if they're not sure, to stay away from the
stereotypes of what a male should like, or what a female should like....
let them experiment, play...imagine.....then decide for themselves what
they'd like......
I much rather see all future wars fought with balloon weapons at 20
paces...least then, win or lose, everyone gets to go home in 1 piece
when it's all over.........
Best regards,
-steve-
Steven H. Brown
steve@theatrefx.com
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Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:16:34 -0500
From: "Tim Rimmer (aka Buttons The Magic Clown)" <imaclown@cswnet.com>
To: <balloon@fooledya.com>
Subject: Thanksnslem Storiesies98 #123
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Thanks,
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I really appriciate all of the response i got for the lobster! Thanks =
to you all.
I enjoy the talk about resturants too. I have been trying to pick up =
some restarant work myself but so far can't land anything. Maybe I'm =
aiming to high, could somebody help me out in this matter? You can send =
personal E-Mail to me if you wish, because I would kinda like to know =
what ya'll think a far price to ask is. Also when you work resturants do =
you do balloons only, or do you do a other stuff too (Magic, Puppets, =
Etc.)?
Thanks for the input!
Buttons The Clown
Tim Rimmer
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<DIV>Thanks, </DIV>
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<DIV> I really appriciate all of the response i got for the =
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Thanks to you all.</DIV>
<DIV>I enjoy the talk about resturants too. I have been trying to pick =
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restarant work myself but so far can't land anything. Maybe I'm aiming =
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could somebody help me out in this matter? You can send personal E-Mail =
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is. Also when you work resturants do you do balloons only, or do you do =
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